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Large-scale economic development deals in Indian Country have typically been financed by banks, tax credit investors and outside institutions — with Native CDFIs often left on the sidelines. That may be starting to change.

In Episode 4 of Difference Makers 3.0, Mission Driven Finance’s Ted Piccolo and Stephen Nunes join hosts Brian Edwards and Pete Upton to discuss a $65 million flour mill project on the Umatilla Indian Reservation — and how eight Native CDFIs came together to finance a critical piece of the deal.

The project, known as the Blue Mountain Mill, combines tribal equity, senior debt and a $9 million subordinated loan from Native CDFIs across the country. The conversation explores how that financing came together, why Native lenders were brought in first, and what Piccolo calls a “capital weave” — a model that could shape the next generation of Native-led deals.

Here are highlights from the conversation:

On why Native lenders haven’t historically been part of larger deals:

“There’s been this game happening — these big deals getting done in Indian Country — and Native lenders haven’t been allowed to play. I experienced that firsthand. I couldn’t even get in the room.”

On what changed:

“There’s been a willingness from Native lenders to be in these deals. What was missing was a vehicle — a way to bring that capital together.”

On how the flour mill deal came together:

“They needed nine to ten million in the middle of the capital stack, and no one was stepping up. That’s when we said — this is something the Native CDFI industry can do.”

On the ‘capital weave’ model:

“It’s not new to our culture. We’ve been trading across this continent for generations. We’re just doing it again — and we’re using capital.”

On what participation means for Native CDFIs:

“It gives Native CDFIs the ability to be part of a well-structured deal, build experience and move into larger transactions in the future.”

On why tribal participation matters:

“When the tribe is in as an equity partner, it shows there’s real alignment and commitment — and it helps ensure the project succeeds.”

On what comes next:

“Five years from now, you’re going to see Native CDFIs in the room on major projects — and in some cases, leading them.”

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